Re: Kaj pravi uradna znanost glede Planeta X

["Marjan P." <%premar%@xxxxxxx>]

Matjaz wrote in message <3690697D.E37D6B32@xxxxxxx>...
>Mark Jean Do wrote:

...
>> Kje pa. Dolge zimske noèi so lahko samo razmi?ljali. Niso imeli paè luèi
>> (primer na?ih krajev). Ja, potrebovali so mnogo veè èasa, da so si
zagotovil
>> eksistenco=hrano, ampak ?e vedno jim ga je ostalo kar nekaj. Sploh pa
zaradi
>> neobremenjenosti niso bili omejeni z kratkimi roki, so paè delali stvari
par
>> stoletij. Tako kot Sagrade Familio v Barceloni, ki jo ?e delajo.
>
>Ja hm.... Na Velikonocnih otokih pa zima????? No ja morda pa le ce tako
>pravis. Pa tudi "svaka cast" tehnologiji, ki je bila sposobna v eni zimi
>isklesati tisoctonske velikane, jih postaviti na obalo in jim na glavo,

Hmm, morda sem malo bolj pocasnih misli, vendar mi ni jasno, kako si ti
prisel iz *razmisljanja* tokom dolgih zimskih noci na *izvedbo* v eni sami
zimi?

>iz cistega dolgcasa seveda, povezniti prav tako tezke klobuke. Pri nas
>so kvecjemu izrezljali kaksno pobozno podobico iz lesa v tem casu. :)
>
>Pa dosti sale. Jaz sem mnenja, da ljudje vendarle niso tako iracionalni,
>da bi sli kar kamnite glave klesati in to brez razloga ali pa da bi kar
>tako zgradili neke piramide iz dolgcasa. Samo ce pogledamo novejso
>zgodovino, kjer ima skorajda vsak kip svoje mesto in razlog, prav tako
>zgradba.

Sploh ne bi rekel. Svet je posejan s grandioznimi konstrukcijami izkljucno
kot zelja arhitekta, da pride v zgodovino, kot dokaz sposobnosti le-tega,
kot dokaz tehnoloskih moznosti (v cem je po tvojem korist Eiflovega stolpa?)
kot dokaz supremacije neke ideologije (npr. komunizma, nacizma, kapitalizma,
...), kot darilo, cast ali spostovanje bogovom ali vladarjem (cel kup takih
neverjetnih objektov je bilo postavljenih v ta namen, med drugim ravno
piramide, svetisca v J. Ameriki, ...), ... In sploh ni nujno, da so prej
navedeni razlogi znak iraconalnosti.


>Ljudje smo pac radovedni in nas razlogi in izvor venomer zanima.

Pravilno.

>Egipcanske piramide pa v zadnjem casu dozivljajo pravo renesanso. Kot
>sem ze omenil, so Ameriski geologi skoraj 100% potrdili tezo, da so bile
>piramide zgrajene vsaj se plus 5000 let od dosedaj znanega (torej nekje
>10000 let nazaj).

Khm. Od kje pa ti ta podatek? Iz Misterijev? :-)))

No, pri Britannici ocitno Misterijev ne berejo in za njih je se vedno uraden
podatek:

The pyramids of ancient Egypt were funerary edifices. They were built over a
period of 2,700 years, ranging from the beginning of the Old Kingdom to the
close of the Ptolemaic Period; but the time at which pyramid building
reached its acme, the pyramid age par excellence, was that commencing with
the 3rd dynasty and ending with the 6th (c. 2686-2345 BC). During those
years the pyramid was the regular type of royal tomb. It was not, as such,
an isolated structure, but was always part of an architectural complex. The
essential components, during the Old Kingdom at any rate, were the pyramid
itself, containing or surmounting the grave proper and standing within an
enclosure on high desert ground; an adjacent mortuary temple; and a causeway
leading down to a pavilion (usually called the valley temple), situated at
the edge of the cultivation and probably connected with the Nile by a canal.
About 80 royal pyramids have been found in Egypt, many of them, however,
reduced to mere mounds of debris and long ago plundered of their treasures.
(see also Index: Egyptian arts and architecture, ancient, funerary
architecture)

Glede piramid v Gizi pa:

Arabic AHRAMAT AL-JIZAH, three 4th-dynasty (c. 2575-c. 2465 BC) pyramids
erected on a rocky plateau on the west bank of the Nile River near al-Jizah
(Giza), Egypt; they are included among the Seven Wonders of the Ancient
World. The northernmost and the oldest pyramid of the group was built by
Khufu (Greek: Cheops), the second king of the 4th dynasty. Called the Great
Pyramid, it is the largest of the three, the length of each side at the base
averaging 755 3/4 feet (230.4 m) and its original height being 481 2/5 feet
(147 m). The middle pyramid was built by Khafre (Greek: Chephren), the
fourth of the eight kings of the 4th dynasty; the structure measures 707 3/4
feet (216 m) on each side and was originally 471 feet (143 m) high. The
southernmost and last pyramid to be built was that of Menkaure (Greek:
Mycerinus), the sixth king of the 4th dynasty. Each side measures 356 1/2
feet (109 m), and the structure's completed height was 218 feet (66 m). All
three pyramids were plundered both internally and externally in ancient
times. Thus, most of the grave goods originally deposited in the burial
chambers are missing, and the pyramids no longer reach their original
heights because they have been almost entirely stripped of their outer
casings of smooth white limestone; the Great Pyramid, for example, is now
only 451 2/5 feet (138 m) high. Khafre, the middle pyramid, does retain the
outer limestone casing at its topmost portion.

> Tudi znamenita svinga naj bi danasnjo 'glavo' dobla
>kasneje, na njenem 'trupu' pa so odkrili sledove ...vode-morja!!!

Prvic slisim. Je pa mozno, da so bile kaksne skoljke ali kaj podobnega v
materialu. Medtem si si verjetno ze razjasnil "cudez" pojava skoljk na
vrhovih gora?

Se nekaj o Sfingi iz Britannice (ne dvomim, da bi v ostalih enciklopedijah
nasel drugacne podatke):

The earliest and most famous example in art is the colossal recumbent Sphinx
at Giza, Egypt, dating from the reign of King Khafre (4th king of 4th
dynasty, c. 2575-c. 2465 BC). This is known to be a portrait statue of the
king, and the sphinx continued as a royal portrait type through most of
Egyptian history. (Arabs, however, know the Sphinx of Giza by the name of
Abu al-Hawl, or "Father of Terror.") Through Egyptian influence the sphinx
became known in Asia, but its meaning there is uncertain. The sphinx did not
occur in Mesopotamia until about 1500 BC, when it was clearly imported from
the Levant. In appearance the Asian sphinx differed from its Egyptian model
most noticeably in the addition of wings to the leonine body, a feature that
continued through its subsequent history in Asia and the Greek world.
Another innovation was the female sphinx, which first began to appear in the
15th century BC. On seals, ivories, and metalwork they were portrayed
sitting on their haunches, often with one paw raised, and were frequently
paired with a lion, a griffin (part eagle and part lion), or another sphinx.

>Piramida, kot je velika Keopsova, naj bi bila prvotno neposlikana. Rizbe
>in mrliske vezice naj bi svojo podobo dobile kasneje. Kako to, da
>hieroglifi in egipcanske slikarije povedo skoraj vse o zivljenju starih
>egipcanov, nikjer pa niso odkrili upodobitev graditeljev velikih
>piramid? So bili sploh Egipcani tisti, ki so to naredili?


Nekako se ne nagibam k vesoljskemu izvoru. :-)) Niti neznanim blazno
naprednim civilizacijam, od katerih niso [se] nasli nicesar. Vsaj kaksno
plastenko ali steklenico Coca-Bunga bi pricakovali ob piramidah.:-))

LP
Marjan